George, I love that the meat of your class was cases since real life is the best teacher.
With your LI excess case, you kind of glossed over her adverse reaction to SP+. I wonder if the rest of her presentation really let you take that in. This has happened to me a number of times- letting certain aspects of the presentation distract me from the most clinically significant piece of data which is patient response to treatment.
I've had a number of similar patients, including myself, that seem strongly LI excess but respond beautifully to LI+. My personality is very LI excess (projects! projects! projects!), my skin used to be very extremely dry with fog 3-4/10. After LI+, my skin is actually more moist than it used to be, perhaps because the foggy damp was blocking circulation to the surface.
LI+ stopped my thin gums from bleeding and totally healed my hand washing dermatitis (which was a mix of very dry and vesicular).
SP+ felt great the first time I did it, but other attempts make my teeth hurt immediately.
I was obese as child and young adult and had lots of cavities. I've had other LI excess patients who were overweight earlier in life respond well to LI+. Anecdotal but something to consider. I always ask about dental work now too.
With your LI excess case, you kind of glossed over her adverse reaction to SP+
This was one of those cases where I feel lost and not sure what to do. She complained about brain fog from the start and said with other treatments that she had more brain fog - so I am not clear how much weight to put into it being an adverse event. I don't know if I mentioned it, but she is quite anemic and refuses to eat meat - I feel that is a big part of not getting anywhere. Her tongue is also sometimes thickly coated and often a red body. Oh and she refuses herbs.
LI excess but respond beautifully to LI+. My personality is very LI excess (projects! projects! projects!), my skin used to be very extremely dry with fog 3-4/10. After LI+, my skin is actually more moist than it used to be, perhaps because the foggy damp was blocking circulation to the surface.
Thank you for sharing....I am finding that supplementing LI+ seems to have a broad girth of possible presentations. I have been using it on thin people I never would have considered before (say watery allergies or as you mentioned gum issues). The two supplement points have quite a bit going on so I have been thinking of LI+ in some western physiological terms.
I wonder if you treated stomach on yourself and how that worked - I believe I recall April 2019 Toby saying "fog" to you and to supplement ST+. I have seen ST+/LI+ can often be interchanged on some folks. Earth/Yangming. Metal/Yangming -
SP+ felt great the first time I did it, but other attempts make my teeth hurt immediately.
This is something when it happens, eh? And maddening too as now the opposite is needed. I have had similar trip me up in cases. I hope to be able to see these kinds of cases more clearly in time.
I was obese as child and young adult and had lots of cavities. I've had other LI excess patients who were overweight earlier in life respond well to LI+. Anecdotal but something to consider. I always ask about dental work now too.
This is a great point. I only ask about past/growing up in terms of resources for LU+ (or about any dysmenorrhea for menopausal women) - but the past archetypal patterns can still be present in a not-so-visible way. We need to take it all in and not just the present GTITR.
....and I am blown away by how well Saam works for gum issues and post dental procedures.
Thank for sharing your experiences.
Brain fog is not always damp- so I get your hesistancy in using LI+. Didn't someone present a case of brain fog after sun exposure that responded well to Liver+?
<I believe I recall April 2019 Toby saying "fog" to you and to supplement ST+.> Fog is not clearly internal nor external. St+ has never done much for me, even though my resources are more than adequate and I appear more Lung excess than Stomach excess. However, Lung+ has helped me when I've really really exhausted myself or find myself anxiously provisioning (even though my cupboards are well stocked.) For some patients, trial and error is needed to work out individual affinities.
For sure, LI+ must be considered for dental and gum issues, even when the morphology is not a match.
