What is Nature, and what is Nurture? It’s an old question that poses what is perhaps a false dichotomy. 

Considering out Nature, it’s as old as Chinese medicine. And nourishing ourselves so as to enjoy the full measure of our days, also has a long history of inquiry and practice. 

As practitioners we need to know how to take care of ourselves as part of being able to care for others. The tenets of East Asian medicine suggest that different kinds of people need different things. Sun Xi Miao is one of the leading authorities on medicine and cultivation. 

In this conversation with Sabine Wilms and Leo Lok we discuss their perspective on what Sun Si Miao has passed down to us, and a special program they are offering for those who want to take a deep dive into the essence of “nourishing our nature.”

In This Conversation We Discuss:

  • Differences of yang xing and yang sheng
  • Sun Simiao’s teachings
  • Nourishing our nature
  • Nutrition and superfoods
  • Sexual cultivation techniques and dietetics throughout the centuries
  • Food, emotionality, and ways of living
  • Xing and ming
  • Sun Simiao teachings’ relevance
  • The sweet spot
  • Beyond the me and we
  • We’re all one

“Knowing others is intelligence; knowing yourself is true wisdom. Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.”
—Lao Tzu​


Sabine Wilms, Ph.D

I have an academic background, with a PhD in East Asian Studies and Medical Anthropology, and the author and translator of more than a dozen books on Chinese medicine.  Additionally I lecture around the world and mentor students through my online mentorship programs “Imperial Tutor” and “Reading the Chinese Medicine Classics.”

I've always been more interested in exploring the practical applications of what I read, study, and translate, both for myself and for clinicians. I consider myself a practitioner of Chinese medicine in the true and grand sense of “medicine” as expressed in the Chinese classical literature: the harmonizing of Heaven and Earth in our pivotal role as humans.

I love to teach and share my understanding of traditional Chinese medicine and of classical Chinese culture, philosophy, literature, and religion, with modern practitioners and students.

The wisdom of food therapy inspired by Chinese Medicine can greatly benefit the world.


Leo Lok (M.Ac.O.M)

I am a practitioner and independent scholar of Chinese Medicine. A native speaker/reader of Chinese languages, I am a rare clinician-scholar who excels in transmitting ancient Chinese medical ideas in English.

Since 2015, I have been a top contributor in the 6432-member Facebook group – Scholars of Chinese Medicine. I have helped research and answer more than 2000 questions on the historical development, interpretations and translations of Chinese medical topics.

I have also been consulted for numerous translation projects. e.g. Dr. Sabine Wilms's ‘The Divine Farmer's Classic of Materia Medica’ (2017)《神農本草經》and “Hundred Questions on Gynecology” (2019)《女科百問》. I am also a contributing translator for an upcoming (2025) anthology of historical Asian literature on meditation related illnesses (a project by Dr. Pierce Salguero at Pennsylvania State University).

I share my unique perspectives and clinical insights via online courses at http://vooma.thinkific.com

 

 

Links and Resources

Interested in Sabine and Leo's exploration of Sun Si Miao's practices of Yang Xing, check out their course

 

 

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